tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post316225072618398469..comments2022-03-31T00:16:51.170-07:00Comments on The Lie Detector: For Kevin Levin, Whiteness Isn't REALLY a Problem...Conniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-59839522551849479322016-10-26T03:29:20.675-07:002016-10-26T03:29:20.675-07:00The best analysis of the old, Moscow Hive was made...The best analysis of the old, Moscow Hive was made in the 1970s by a Soviet mathematician, Igor Shafarevich, a friend of Solzhenitsyn’s. He wrote from the belly of the beast, or close to it, for he held a position at Moscow University. His book, The Socialist Phenomenon, published here in 1980, argued that socialism had endured throughout history, usually in the form of one or another Christian heresy. It gives expression to the gnostic urge to rebel — the rebellion of the educated against the constraints imposed by Creation and by God. In earlier periods, when of course the socialist label was not used, it could be identified by its insistent, unvarying emphasis on certain goals: the destruction of private property and of the traditional or “nuclear” family; and above all, the dismemberment of traditional, or orthodox religion. Throughout history, the phenomenon has been obsessed with material equality, and with the eradication of individual and gender distinctions. It wars incessantly against the normal. Shafarevich concluded that a “striving for self-destruction,” for nothingness, for the “death of mankind,” was the true goal of socialism. Instinctively, without stating it or even seeing it as the conscious goal, the socialist phenomenon seeks the death of the human race. <br /><a href="http://www.sobran.com/hive/hum.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.sobran.com/hive/hum.shtml</a><br /><br /><br />Transcript of "The Socialist Phenomenon"<br /><a href="http://robertlstephens.com/essays/shafarevich/001SocialistPhenomenon.html" rel="nofollow"> http://robertlstephens.com/essays/shafarevich/001SocialistPhenomenon.html</a>Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-30492403320458019162016-10-26T03:09:51.019-07:002016-10-26T03:09:51.019-07:00It's not about "views." It's abo...It's not about "views." It's about deeds, action. Leftism -- socialism, communism -- murdered more people in the 20TH CENTURY (262 million, R.J. Rummel) than any other force, ideology or religion in history -- even Islam (270 million deaths, but they occurred over 1400 years, per Bill Warner). Those 262 million deaths were murders and don't include war deaths. You can have all the wonderful socialist "views" you wish, but for hundreds of years, hospitals, orphanages, food providers were the religions, mostly Christian -- not commies, not socialists. <br /><br />Socialism -- whether top down or bottom up -- is still socialism, and it wars against humanity. It has always, always taken a horrible toll on the human beings unfortunate enough to find themselves under its heel.<br /><br />Tyranny is a whole lot more than economics and taxes. <br /><br />Yes, leftists love to bash white Southerners; and one reason Levin, Simpson, et.al., are so focused on the civil war is that they can have a "legitimate" reason to bash white Southerners, because, "...we're not doing it just because they're from the South, it's because ... the Confederacy" or "because slavery," or "because treason." White Southerners are no worse, and never have been worse, than anyone else, but they are denigrated and stereotyped by government, education and the popular culture (especially in movies) as being stupid, lazy, evil. (Christians are denigrated in the same way.) <br /><br />No, Sledge. I am not what marginalizes homosexuals to society. And it's not about who they go home to at night. People say, "Why do you think of it only in terms of sex? It's not about that -- it's about gays being able to love who they love..." About love, not sex? Oh, really? Then why these half-naked "pride" parades (some participants might as well be totally naked) up and down the streets of New York, San Francisco and other cities in the USA and around the world? Why the paint and feathers and the acting out anal sex in front of children, in front of cameras, at these in-your-face public events, if it's just about going home at night to someone they love?<br /><br />I'm not doing any of that marginalizing; they are. What they're doing is demanding approval, and if it doesn't come, they will get in-your-face offensive. <br /><br />Look at this and tell me it is harmless to decency...<br /><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=gay+parade&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVmsPpkvjPAhXM5yYKHZ4IAzoQ_AUICCgB&biw=1123&bih=770#imgrc=_" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=gay+parade&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVmsPpkvjPAhXM5yYKHZ4IAzoQ_AUICCgB&biw=1123&bih=770#imgrc=_</a><br /><br />The horrible consequences I'm talking about are the eternal consequences of willful sin and defiance of God without repentance and forgiveness. Christ gave Christians the responsibility of bringing truth to the lost. Informing them isn't deciding for them. <br /><br />Christianity isn't found in Leviticus, Sledge. When people try to trap Christians by referencing the Old Testament, I know they don't understand how to "accurately handle the word of truth."<br /><br />The Old Testament is history; we can learn from it, but it isn't for Christians to live by. The laws and commands recorded there were for a particular people at a particular time in their history. <br /><br />Telling someone the consequences of their behavior isn't deciding anything for them; it's advising them, counseling them. If somebody's flying down the road toward a canyon where the bridge is out, would it be "marginalizing" them to flag them down and warn them?<br /><br />Look at those pictures at the link above and tell me who is doing the marginalizing....Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-31125786597386991082016-10-25T05:28:12.942-07:002016-10-25T05:28:12.942-07:00"What discounts leftist views is that they ar..."What discounts leftist views is that they are morally bankrupt..." - The argument could be made that their view is more Christian-like than the right's view. <br /><br />"Bernie's kinder, gentler socialism? There is no such thing." - Maybe, maybe not. I'm just saying from his point of view, instead of a top-down socialism, it's bottom-up socialism. <br /><br />"We are no longer where we were in the 1980s because leftism/progressivism has been marching onward since then and we're farther down the path toward tyranny." - Economically that isn't at all true. Taxes have continually been lowered since the 80s (save for a slight up tick in the 90s). Taxes are nowhere near the levels they were prior to Reagan. And the income gap widens all the time. <br /><br />"You're not going to find "honest discussion" about white Southerners from Kevin Levin, Brooks Simpson, Andy Hall, et. al.," - I haven't seen them disparage anyone simply for being from the South. You neo-Confederates think you own "being Southern". You don't (less and less with each passing year). I don't agree with much of anything that you, or any of the others say, but I am Southern. <br /><br />"If you want to do something that marginalizes you to society, don't blame society." - The only thing that marginalizes them to society is you. Who they decide to go home to at night has no bearing on their place in society. But, if heterosexuals are going to be given preference and homosexuals are going to be marginalized in society, that isn't congruent with the Constitution. <br /><br />Horrific consequences? You mean the harm that people have done to them through the years? Because that's the only harm in being openly gay. <br /><br />If you're talking about spiritually, that isn't for you to decide for them. I'm sure you live by "the original Bible", the King James (or any of the other more modern incarnations). So, I wonder if you follow all of the other laws in Leviticus. Regardless, it still isn't for you to decide for them or marginalize them.sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-7908954835771540182016-10-21T19:33:48.864-07:002016-10-21T19:33:48.864-07:00Who said it discredits anything about the issue of...Who said it discredits anything about the issue of Forsyth or how the CBF is traditionally used? The point is that people who focus on the battle flag as the embodiment of the country's evil, wink at, overlook, perfume, sanitize, sweep under the rug the same evil that has no connection to the flag, the South, Southerners or the Confederacy. It MIGHT not be so bad, except the almost always, the people who minimize the country's sins symbolized by the US flag are the same people who pitch the loudest fits over the South's sins. The point is not to absolve Forsyth, but to point out the inequity and bigotry of the fit-pitchers....Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-37217660441284773122016-10-21T19:22:21.134-07:002016-10-21T19:22:21.134-07:00What discounts leftist views is that they are mora...What discounts leftist views is that they are morally bankrupt, deceptive, and destructive. The whole point of bringing leftist ideas to the USA in the 20th century was to destroy the republic and replace it with a socialist "utopia" -- you know, the kind that cost tens of millions of innocent lives in places where it was enforced.<br /><br />Bernie's kinder, gentler socialism? There is no such thing. It all eventually horrific tyranny. That's what it so sad to people who can see it. It won't solve the problems of the class gap...it will just make life wretched for all but a small handful.<br /><br />We are no longer where we were in the 1980s because leftism/progressivism has been marching onward since then and we're farther down the path toward tyranny. <br /><br />The "schools of thought" have had major impact on changing our society for the worse. That's not rhetoric. <br /><br />Most of the demonization of whites is not factual. It is "get evenism." It is done to keep conflict stirred up. When I say "demonization of whites" I'm not talking about suppression of truth. Those are two different things, and I am well able to distinguish between them. You're not going to find "honest discussion" about white Southerners from Kevin Levin, Brooks Simpson, Andy Hall, et. al., <br /><br />Yes, the push is to force people to approve of homosexuality. If you want to do something that marginalizes you to society, don't blame society. And you consider it hard to see love in warning people about the horrific consequences of their actions? Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-34039619448538612472016-10-20T12:40:35.043-07:002016-10-20T12:40:35.043-07:00"Sledge, are you saying higher education in t..."Sledge, are you saying higher education in the US of A does NOT lean heavily toward the left?" - A much younger, more conservative, version of myself attending art school knows that is true. But, that doesn't discount their views simply because they're left views.<br /><br />"At least, to anyone familiar with this bunch and their agenda..." - Well, that isn't me. <br /><br />"If you don't think there is an agenda to jerk the country leftward into socialism and need proof" - Yes, there is. I'd say more of a Bernie-type Democratic Socialism. But, the ever widening gap of the upper-class from even the middle class is only going to make the clamor for that even worse. <br /><br />Tax rates were much higher before the 80s and the wage gaps weren't as much. Healthcare was much more affordable. The cost of living was much more affordable. There are a lot of reasons for these things, but just flatly denying ideas simply because of knee-jerk reactions is why we are where we are. People are too susceptible to rhetoric.<br /><br />Gramsci/Marxism/blahblahblah... - I don't really care about these "schools of thought" because it's all rhetoric.<br /><br />"the demonization of whites must be done along with it" - What you call "demonization" others (usually the ones that were oppressed) call it factual. There are people that take it too far, but those will always be fringe. Trying to suppress what is truth by saying it's "demonization" is what foments the oppressed and that fringe. If honest discussion could be had and facts be recognized, then actual solutions could be sought. <br /><br />Homosexuality - You don't have to approve. You just can't discriminate. I understand your point on preachers, but you also have to understand that someone being told they should not be allowed to be full members of society, or that they will burn, because of who they are and something beyond their control, it's hard to see the love in that.<br /><br />Yes, "dismissal". Thank you for the spell check. I think that was clear.sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-68911330473111181942016-10-13T13:22:00.008-07:002016-10-13T13:22:00.008-07:00No we don't.No we don't.Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-78825927808809873872016-10-10T18:52:31.296-07:002016-10-10T18:52:31.296-07:00Enjoy, Sledge. And note how far back my experience...Enjoy, Sledge. And note how far back my experience with this creep's cyberstalking, cyber-bulling and harassing goes....<br /><br /><a href="http://www.conniechastain.com/TL/Billy.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www.conniechastain.com/TL/Billy.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.conniechastain.com/TL/DigitalBilly.html" rel="nofollow"><br />http://www.conniechastain.com/TL/DigitalBilly.html</a><br /><br />Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-75435971694522223352016-10-10T18:31:22.705-07:002016-10-10T18:31:22.705-07:00Well, obviously, we aren't talking about the s...Well, obviously, we aren't talking about the same sites, then.<br />Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-80211857737523212492016-10-10T16:17:05.235-07:002016-10-10T16:17:05.235-07:00Question... what is "the dismal of the educat...Question... what is "the dismal of the educated"? Is this some voice recognition rendering of "dismissal"? Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-44074198900157268992016-10-10T16:13:34.875-07:002016-10-10T16:13:34.875-07:00Really, sledge. Do you believe there has been no e...Really, sledge. Do you believe there has been no effort since WWII to implant and implement socialism in this country? And I don't mean economic socialism ...or rather, not <i>just</i> that. The efforts are cultural, as well. That's why just ending discrimination against blacks isn't enough -- the demonization of whites must be done along with it. It isn't enough to protect the rights of women; men must be demonized, as well. It isn't enough to prohibit the mistreatment of homosexuals; people must be forced to approve of homosexuality; Christian preachers who preach against it must be accused of hatred and demonized. <br /><br />Do you not see this? Seriously?Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-88430499513940283242016-10-10T15:46:20.370-07:002016-10-10T15:46:20.370-07:00Sledge, are you saying higher education in the US ...Sledge, are you saying higher education in the US of A does NOT lean heavily toward the left? As a matter of fact, Gramsci and the Frankfurt theorists DID have an agenda. And I didn't "forget" Marxism. Anybody who knows about these guys knows that Antonio Gramsci was a neo-Marxist theorist and the Frankfurt boys were preoccupied with Hegelian Marxism. To add Marxism to this: "Gramscian, Frankfurt School leftist ideology...." would be redundant. At least, to anyone familiar with this bunch and their agenda...<br /><br />If you don't think there is an agenda to jerk the country leftward into socialism and need proof, look at what they recommended for transforming the west, and see how much of it is now the norm in our country...<br /><br />Let's start with info about Gramsci. (I didn't write this, btw. I just think it's profound and needs to be read): <a href="http://mybacksass.blogspot.com/2013/11/still-pertinent-after-all-these-years_23.html" rel="nofollow"> http://mybacksass.blogspot.com/2013/11/still-pertinent-after-all-these-years_23.html</a>Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-1167874575411050392016-10-10T11:02:26.374-07:002016-10-10T11:02:26.374-07:00Dill was also known "as a pocket Merlin, whos...Dill was also known "as a pocket Merlin, whose head teemed with eccentric plans, strange longings, and quaint fancies". You both do have quite the imaginations.<br /><br />I love the dismal of the educated. It's all a conspiracy. Everything has an agenda. There isn't any actual evidence used to disprove anything. Just feelings and "I just know"-s. <br /><br />"They SHOULD be on the side of truth and history, but they are on the side of their Gramscian, Frankfurt School leftist ideology...." - You forgot Marxism. sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-10882488458981848272016-10-10T10:56:26.836-07:002016-10-10T10:56:26.836-07:00"No, a great many of Corey's comments on ..."No, a great many of Corey's comments on proConfederate sites have absolutely nothing to do with history." - I've seen nothing of the sort. In fact, the experience I've had with these sites is that the sites aren't interested in history, just the prefered narrative. And if anyone speaks otherwise, hoo-boy... sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-50338349393796416352016-10-10T10:50:31.992-07:002016-10-10T10:50:31.992-07:00"Sledge, do you happen to notice what flag th..."Sledge, do you happen to notice what flag they are using to promote segregation with?" - How does this discredit anything in regards to the issue of Forsyth or how the CBF is traditionally used?<br /><br />But, kudos to Eddie for going to the Huffington Post to get the image. <br /><br />(I know he got it from a google search. But, it's just poetic that it came from the Huffington Post. I guess it doesn't matter the source as long as it fits the preferred narrative.)sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-46206402356494279672016-10-10T10:46:52.928-07:002016-10-10T10:46:52.928-07:00"Wasn't in hopes of discrediting the imag..."Wasn't in hopes of discrediting the image, but in discrediting Levin." - It failed on both counts.sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-17925291860747216682016-10-10T10:46:30.793-07:002016-10-10T10:46:30.793-07:00"Typical effort to restrict the focus and ign..."Typical effort to restrict the focus and ignore larger or pertinent situations." - Because the image is in Forsyth. <br /><br />I don't dispute that the US flag has been used in horrible ways. But, as the CSA no longer exists, the CBF is a flag of idealism (how it's being used in these images). They are using it as a symbol of their ideals. The US flag is used as a nationalistic symbol, because they think the US belongs to whites.<br /><br />The CBF has never been used to stand for all human beings. You really consider the use by these hate groups to be a display of civil rights? Despite what you and others like you think, Southern whites are not under attack. The only things "under attack" is the lack of tolerance of those that aren't like you. Making room for others does not mean you are being made less.<br /><br />"You think civil rights/human rights belong only to a select group or segment." - No, I believe they are for all humans. Not when a segment starts advocating for the discrimination of another segment.sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-69473069863518119982016-10-10T10:10:52.800-07:002016-10-10T10:10:52.800-07:00I still don't see why he it should mean anythi...I still don't see why he it should mean anything to him. If you asked him where I lived, he would reply "Who?".<br /><br />"Do you think force is the only way to bring change? Well, yes, if you're a leftist, I guess you do." - No. I don't think it's the only way. But, if people are being oppressed or repressed and there are those that are actively fighting against it, then some form of force (legislative) is necessary in a country that prides itself on equality.<br /><br />Do you bemoan the slave that revolted against their masters? Do you say they should have just been quiet and waited for the whites to tire of slavery? <br /><br />Should the blacks, for the 100 years after the war, have just kept quiet? Just waited til whites decided it was time to give them equality? <br /><br />You yourself said some things should be challenged. sledridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13645390623931588204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-56991406264603420702016-10-08T18:45:44.009-07:002016-10-08T18:45:44.009-07:00In your opinion perhaps, but you yourself admit to...In your opinion perhaps, but you yourself admit to being a proud Union descendant from a Northern state. So maybe you should concede that you have a bit of a bias in your own telling of that history. Sorta like a Palestinian or Jordanian trying to tell the history of the Flag of Israel. C.W. Rodenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04720242706965307970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-28307409605730098852016-10-08T08:38:57.876-07:002016-10-08T08:38:57.876-07:00Yes, the longevity of BR's alias establishes h...Yes, the longevity of BR's alias establishes his track record of posting in comment threads on blogs where he's allowed to do so. <br /><br />No, a great many of Corey's comments on proConfederate sites have absolutely nothing to do with history. Polly Graffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11595682608459100399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-82283346294656016832016-10-08T08:34:53.167-07:002016-10-08T08:34:53.167-07:00I know it; I can read, just like Charles Baker Har...I know it; I can read, just like Charles Baker Harris. Corey, there are people with degrees who are as dumb as a box of rocks. The teaching profession -- indeed, the whole educational establishment -- aren't on our side because they are in the leftist indoctrination business. They SHOULD be on the side of truth and history, but they are on the side of their Gramscian, Frankfurt School leftist ideology....Polly Graffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11595682608459100399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-81280319469356937322016-10-07T19:32:12.064-07:002016-10-07T19:32:12.064-07:00That is because you and your ilk misrepresent the ...That is because you and your ilk misrepresent the flag and its history.Corey Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09503477662435365052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-23782186203644151082016-10-07T19:31:24.620-07:002016-10-07T19:31:24.620-07:00When has anyone ever said that these types of thin...When has anyone ever said that these types of things did not happen?<br /><br />However, the south perfected segregation.Corey Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09503477662435365052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-17650531971857510572016-10-07T19:30:31.767-07:002016-10-07T19:30:31.767-07:00LOL...that is what you think. Remember I am the o...LOL...that is what you think. Remember I am the one here with a degree...along with others in the teaching profession...none of which are on your side.Corey Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09503477662435365052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152328199894005634.post-90566530693637905522016-10-07T18:28:08.391-07:002016-10-07T18:28:08.391-07:00Nope. He is far too articulate to be you.Nope. He is far too articulate to be you.Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696918266055510131noreply@blogger.com